Comments on: When Chimps Attack http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/ Eclectic Musings For Distinctly Morbid Minds Sat, 19 May 2012 14:24:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Random T. http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-1124 Random T. Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:00:35 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-1124 If you want to read a reader's feedback :) , I rate this article for four from five. Decent info, but I just have to go to that damn google to find the missed pieces. Thank you, anyway! If you want to read a reader’s feedback :) , I rate this article for four from five. Decent info, but I just have to go to that damn google to find the missed pieces. Thank you, anyway!

]]> By: Melly http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Melly Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:49:56 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-247 I was lucky enough to visit the Fauna Foundation near Montreal and I will never see chimps the same way ever again. I had no idea how big chimps get or how strong they are. Like most people I thought the ones on TV or in movies were fully grown and cute and sweet and lovable. The sad fact is that they are juveniles and once they start to get big they are sold off to zoos or, worst of all, to labs. I was lucky enough to visit the Fauna Foundation near Montreal and I will never see chimps the same way ever again. I had no idea how big chimps get or how strong they are. Like most people I thought the ones on TV or in movies were fully grown and cute and sweet and lovable. The sad fact is that they are juveniles and once they start to get big they are sold off to zoos or, worst of all, to labs.

]]> By: Aimee http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Aimee Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:40:34 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-151 Louise, I know the lady who was mauled was not the owner of the chimp. And I don't think ANYBODY was implying that Ms. Nash is in any way deserving of what happened to her. If we are implying anything at all, it's probably that things have been leading up to this final incident for years and that the onwer, Mrs. Herold, should never have let things get that far. The chimp should have been confiscated (or more likely killed, since humanized as he was he could never have adjusted to living with other chimps) after the first biting incident, and certainly should have been after his escape a few years ago. Louise, I know the lady who was mauled was not the owner of the chimp. And I don’t think ANYBODY was implying that Ms. Nash is in any way deserving of what happened to her. If we are implying anything at all, it’s probably that things have been leading up to this final incident for years and that the onwer, Mrs. Herold, should never have let things get that far. The chimp should have been confiscated (or more likely killed, since humanized as he was he could never have adjusted to living with other chimps) after the first biting incident, and certainly should have been after his escape a few years ago.

]]> By: Louise http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Louise Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:12:27 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-150 The woman who was mauled was not the owner of the chimpanzee. This does not make a huge difference-- she was a friend, not an unsuspecting delivery driver-- but it does mean you can't simply say it served her right. In most states there are _no_ restrictions on what animals can be kept as pets or who can buy them. You can bring home a tiger cub, an alligator, or a snake that grows to 30ft and shut it up in a bedroom or let it loose in your back yard. A pet store can put out a litter of some cute small-and-furry that no veterinarian in a 500-mile radius has ever heard of, and sell one to the next ten-year-old who walks in. The woman who was mauled was not the owner of the chimpanzee. This does not make a huge difference– she was a friend, not an unsuspecting delivery driver– but it does mean you can’t simply say it served her right.

In most states there are _no_ restrictions on what animals can be kept as pets or who can buy them. You can bring home a tiger cub, an alligator, or a snake that grows to 30ft and shut it up in a bedroom or let it loose in your back yard. A pet store can put out a litter of some cute small-and-furry that no veterinarian in a 500-mile radius has ever heard of, and sell one to the next ten-year-old who walks in.

]]> By: Aimee http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Aimee Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:10:01 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-148 Was she even feeding him right? All the news says he ate steak and lobster and ice cream. Well, chimps in the wild or in zoos sure don't eat that stuff. He even drank wine from a wineglass. How smart is it to let a chimp who's already shown he has aggressive tendencies drink alcohol? She was self-medicating him too, with Xanax in his tea. So she knew he had problems. Was she even feeding him right? All the news says he ate steak and lobster and ice cream. Well, chimps in the wild or in zoos sure don’t eat that stuff. He even drank wine from a wineglass. How smart is it to let a chimp who’s already shown he has aggressive tendencies drink alcohol?
She was self-medicating him too, with Xanax in his tea. So she knew he had problems.

]]> By: Maika http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Maika Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:26:50 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-146 I've also read that the Chimp was suffering from Lyme disease. I feel bad for the mauled woman and the quality of life she'll have if she successfully recovers form her injuries, but I feel worse for the now dead Chimp. Even if his "owner" did dote on him like a son, that's no life for a Chimpanzee. I’ve also read that the Chimp was suffering from Lyme disease. I feel bad for the mauled woman and the quality of life she’ll have if she successfully recovers form her injuries, but I feel worse for the now dead Chimp. Even if his “owner” did dote on him like a son, that’s no life for a Chimpanzee.

]]> By: Aimee http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Aimee Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:37:53 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-144 OH lord. There's some things that really are worse than death. She can't see, she can't talk, maybe can't smell? and her hands are torn up too so that's going to make things even harder for her than they already are. Apparently the chimp had bitten another person back in 1996, and had gotten loose and was fooling around in the streets a few years back, and his owner had been warned about him. Did she honestly think that she could really control this animal if he really decided to let himself go? (Yes, she probably did have herself convinced.) According to something I heard on the radio, she bathed with the chimp. That is just gross, on so many levels. OH lord. There’s some things that really are worse than death. She can’t see, she can’t talk, maybe can’t smell? and her hands are torn up too so that’s going to make things even harder for her than they already are.
Apparently the chimp had bitten another person back in 1996, and had gotten loose and was fooling around in the streets a few years back, and his owner had been warned about him.
Did she honestly think that she could really control this animal if he really decided to let himself go? (Yes, she probably did have herself convinced.)
According to something I heard on the radio, she bathed with the chimp.
That is just gross, on so many levels.

]]> By: Bluegrasslass http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Bluegrasslass Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:37:29 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-141 Reminds me of Chuck Palahniuck's book "Invisible Monsters" where a fashion model loses her bottom jaw in an accident - hilarious! Highly recommended Reminds me of Chuck Palahniuck’s book “Invisible Monsters” where a fashion model loses her bottom jaw in an accident – hilarious! Highly recommended

]]> By: Shade http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Shade Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:35:13 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-139 In his book "Dead Men Do Tell Tales" Dr. Maples said, no primate makes a good pet; that includes humans. After almost losing a limb from a baboon bite he says, "I hold no grudge. In his position, I would have tried to kill me too." As horrific as what happened to this woman is, I think the real tragedy was what happened to the chimp. He did nothing wrong except have the misfortune of being kept by an ignorant human. We have a tendency to anthropomorphize a lot of things (cars, computers, cadavers) but this is a great example of why that can be dangerous. I think we do non-human animals a great disservice (and disrespect) by humanizing them. In his book “Dead Men Do Tell Tales” Dr. Maples said, no primate makes a good pet; that includes humans. After almost losing a limb from a baboon bite he says, “I hold no grudge. In his position, I would have tried to kill me too.” As horrific as what happened to this woman is, I think the real tragedy was what happened to the chimp. He did nothing wrong except have the misfortune of being kept by an ignorant human. We have a tendency to anthropomorphize a lot of things (cars, computers, cadavers) but this is a great example of why that can be dangerous. I think we do non-human animals a great disservice (and disrespect) by humanizing them.

]]> By: Aimee http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/02/19/when-chimps-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Aimee Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:42:35 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=155#comment-138 Okay then, don't go ape over apes! lol My grandfather had a pet monkey (an actual monkey, I guess, it was pretty small) back when my mother was little. His name was Amos. (The monkey, not my grandfather; my grandfather's name was Herman) This was back when there really weren't any laws against keeping a monkey as a pet. From what I ahve heard, Amos was pretty nice, as monkeys go, but messy and smelly. He'd go to work every day with my grandfather to the gas station, and he'd wear a little harness so he could climb around but not get lost. But eventually he did bite somebody on the hand, pretty deep bite, and I think he was eventually given away. Okay then, don’t go ape over apes! lol
My grandfather had a pet monkey (an actual monkey, I guess, it was pretty small) back when my mother was little. His name was Amos. (The monkey, not my grandfather; my grandfather’s name was Herman) This was back when there really weren’t any laws against keeping a monkey as a pet.
From what I ahve heard, Amos was pretty nice, as monkeys go, but messy and smelly. He’d go to work every day with my grandfather to the gas station, and he’d wear a little harness so he could climb around but not get lost. But eventually he did bite somebody on the hand, pretty deep bite, and I think he was eventually given away.

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