Comments on: Appalachian Shudder http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/ Eclectic Musings For Distinctly Morbid Minds Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:02:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Comtesse http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-17391 Comtesse Sat, 27 Aug 2011 02:57:54 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-17391 <a href="#comment-11179" rel="nofollow">@Warren Turner</a> Hey, I come from small-town America, so I know how frightening and soul-destroying it is! @Warren Turner Hey, I come from small-town America, so I know how frightening and soul-destroying it is!

]]> By: Scoobidy http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-13182 Scoobidy Mon, 02 May 2011 00:49:16 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-13182 I LOVED the paragraph #6 that 'Comtesse' wrote. Halarious! And it also rings true for me as well. In particular, the animal rights activist part. I LOVED the paragraph #6 that ‘Comtesse’ wrote. Halarious! And it also rings true for me as well. In particular, the animal rights activist part.

]]> By: anthony http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-12108 anthony Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:40:46 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-12108 im sure the artist tried to squeez as much drama as possible from the people photogaphed. a suburban pop culture audiance loves that shit. they generaly have little experiance with the "genuine". im sure the artist tried to squeez as much drama as possible from the people photogaphed. a suburban pop culture audiance loves that shit. they generaly have little experiance with the “genuine”.

]]> By: Warren Turner http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-11179 Warren Turner Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:56:01 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-11179 <a href="#comment-885" rel="nofollow">@Comtesse</a> My fear of them is based on their pure embodiment of small-town America mentality – which is death to me. What an insulting thing to say! @Comtesse
My fear of them is based on their pure embodiment of small-town America mentality – which is death to me.

What an insulting thing to say!

]]> By: Marcel http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-5639 Marcel Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:45:23 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-5639 I have an interest in Scottish clans. Napier is one of them and the name is fairly common in Scotland. Take in acount too that a lot of Scottish people emigrated to more or less all continents and would have married "locals" or other immigrants. Also, Scottish clans intermarried. A woman from another clan marrying a Napier would be named so after her husband. Napier might come from "Naperer" (a person taking care of royal linnen) or from Nae peer (No equal). Hence, your heritage is of a Scottish clan, now spread over the world and with many famous people in it. I´ve posted info on clan Napier, including crest, coat of arms and tartan (should you decide to get a Napier kilt). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Napier http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clannapieramerica.org/mediac/400_0/media/tartan.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.clannapieramerica.org/794/836.html&usg=__3lQt0njmyZC_g4AqJsBVUmLwblg=&h=266&w=261&sz=20&hl=sv&start=2&itbs=1&tbnid=QyawJf7q123bhM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNapier%2Btartan%26hl%3Dsv%26tbs%3Disch:1 http://www.clannapieramerica.org/mediac/400_0/media/tartan.jpg I have an interest in Scottish clans.
Napier is one of them and the name is fairly common in Scotland.
Take in acount too that a lot of Scottish people emigrated to more or less all continents and would have married “locals” or other immigrants.

Also, Scottish clans intermarried. A woman from another clan marrying a Napier would be named so after her husband.

Napier might come from “Naperer” (a person taking care of royal linnen) or from Nae peer (No equal).

Hence, your heritage is of a Scottish clan, now spread over the world and with many famous people in it.

I´ve posted info on clan Napier, including crest, coat of arms and tartan (should you decide to get a Napier kilt).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Napier

http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clannapieramerica.org/mediac/400_0/media/tartan.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.clannapieramerica.org/794/836.html&usg=__3lQt0njmyZC_g4AqJsBVUmLwblg=&h=266&w=261&sz=20&hl=sv&start=2&itbs=1&tbnid=QyawJf7q123bhM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNapier%2Btartan%26hl%3Dsv%26tbs%3Disch:1

http://www.clannapieramerica.org/mediac/400_0/media/tartan.jpg

]]> By: MoxieHart http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-968 MoxieHart Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:45:15 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-968 I just got back from visiting my parents in Pennsylvannia who moved back there after retirement. It took two or three generations before my great-grandparents moved to Eastern PA from West Virginia so I'm really only several steps removed from this. Still, while I hate fetishizing the poor, these people seem to have more dignity than the meth-addicted Wal*Mart inhabitants of Hazelton, PA. I just got back from visiting my parents in Pennsylvannia who moved back there after retirement. It took two or three generations before my great-grandparents moved to Eastern PA from West Virginia so I’m really only several steps removed from this. Still, while I hate fetishizing the poor, these people seem to have more dignity than the meth-addicted Wal*Mart inhabitants of Hazelton, PA.

]]> By: RobertB http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-952 RobertB Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:20:50 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-952 <a href="#comment-907" rel="nofollow">@Comtesse </a> Well, that's not so bad... I *like* bluegrass. Oddly, though, my grandfather *hated* the banjo, and in fact took great pains to distance himself from his poorer relations. So it almost goes without saying that I spent as much time as possible down in the holler with them, instead of up on the hill. Not that I'd be any more welcome than y'all. I run a Dixie Chicks fan site, for goodness sakes! @Comtesse
Well, that’s not so bad… I *like* bluegrass. Oddly, though, my grandfather *hated* the banjo, and in fact took great pains to distance himself from his poorer relations. So it almost goes without saying that I spent as much time as possible down in the holler with them, instead of up on the hill.

Not that I’d be any more welcome than y’all. I run a Dixie Chicks fan site, for goodness sakes!

]]> By: Comtesse http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-908 Comtesse Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:32:39 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-908 Well, nothing makes me shudder more violently than the killing of an innocent animal. The hog killing is just the ultimate horror in these photographs. I actually find Shelby's photographs to be quite beautiful... in their own frightening way. But I appreciate what you're saying - there was something honorable in the people in the documentary. I just sense that a gay animal rights atheist liberal like myself might not be particularly welcome in their world! Well, nothing makes me shudder more violently than the killing of an innocent animal. The hog killing is just the ultimate horror in these photographs. I actually find Shelby’s photographs to be quite beautiful… in their own frightening way. But I appreciate what you’re saying – there was something honorable in the people in the documentary. I just sense that a gay animal rights atheist liberal like myself might not be particularly welcome in their world!

]]> By: Comtesse http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Comtesse Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:27:21 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-907 Oh, come on - don't be so politically correct. You hear banjos when you look at those pictures too - just admit it! Oh, come on – don’t be so politically correct. You hear banjos when you look at those pictures too – just admit it!

]]> By: strangetimes http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/2009/04/14/appalachian-shudder/comment-page-1/#comment-894 strangetimes Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:40:35 +0000 http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/?p=223#comment-894 The problem isn't with the people, it's with the artist. The ugliness is in Adams vision; he mentions his father's "prejudice" against these types of people, and then proceeds to immortalize his "daddy issues". I've seen much beauty in Appalachia, even at the hog killings, even in the shacks. The shudder you feel is the dark, distorted vision of Shelby Adams which is the filter through which he shoots. And his attempts to describe the nobility & dignity he's capturing are pure-d BS. As are the fawning art critics who call him incredible. Emperor's New Clothes. Read the Foxfire books or see the Foxfire movie for some of the beauty of Appalachia, even amongst the poorer families. The problem isn’t with the people, it’s with the artist. The ugliness is in Adams vision; he mentions his father’s “prejudice” against these types of people, and then proceeds to immortalize his “daddy issues”. I’ve seen much beauty in Appalachia, even at the hog killings, even in the shacks. The shudder you feel is the dark, distorted vision of Shelby Adams which is the filter through which he shoots. And his attempts to describe the nobility & dignity he’s capturing are pure-d BS. As are the fawning art critics who call him incredible. Emperor’s New Clothes. Read the Foxfire books or see the Foxfire movie for some of the beauty of Appalachia, even amongst the poorer families.

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